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realestateroadwarrior
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"HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
 
   Comments from the website: www.storm2k.org - check out the FORUMS and their tracking the storm and wind all thru the nights
Derek Ortt wrote:
the center of the eye missed Cozumel island by about 7 miles
in other words, the island has been leveled in all liklihood

** I would guess we won't hear for awhile - although my friend who has a Cingular cell from Colorado had signal up unto 11:00 p.m. - just at the eye was moving in.
Pray....


The Road Warrior of Real Estate
Cindy
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Charlesadmin Jul-18-05 1
     A previous post regarding Roxanne and aftermath Charlesadmin Jul-18-05 2
         RE: A previous post regarding Roxanne and aftermath realestateroadwarrior Jul-18-05 3
  RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY cuzamil Jul-18-05 4
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY realestateroadwarrior Jul-18-05 5
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Tia Jul-18-05 6
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY GlenAlan Jul-18-05 7
             8:00AM Monday Report mediakzar Jul-18-05 10
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Carol C Jul-18-05 8
             RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Hobie16 Jul-18-05 11
  RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY dragonguy Jul-18-05 9
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY realestateroadwarrior Jul-18-05 12
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Carol C Jul-18-05 14
             Classification of debris Careyadmin Jul-19-05 45
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY lworkman Jul-18-05 15
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY LorieS Jul-18-05 13
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY rondiver Jul-18-05 16
     Interesting Perspectives Kandy Jul-18-05 18
         RE: Interesting Perspectives stratt10 Jul-18-05 22
  RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY sirenabuceo Jul-18-05 17
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY jriley Jul-18-05 19
         OPTIMISITIC MONDAY AM REPORT davepa Jul-18-05 20
             I was afraid of that Careyadmin Jul-19-05 46
  RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY dragonguy Jul-18-05 21
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY casaceka Jul-18-05 23
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY mslf500 Jul-18-05 24
         Cozumel is Built Charlesadmin Jul-18-05 25
             RE: Cozumel is Built CJC Jul-18-05 28
     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Susie2 dive Jul-18-05 26
         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY cozudiver Jul-18-05 27
             RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY lyndatreb Jul-18-05 29
                 RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY dragonfly Jul-18-05 30
                     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY CJC Jul-18-05 31
                 RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY nutmeg Jul-18-05 32
                 RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY crowsnest12b Jul-18-05 33
                     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY mslf500 Jul-18-05 37
                         RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY crowsnest12b Jul-19-05 44
                 RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY nutmeg Jul-18-05 38
                     RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY lyndatreb Jul-18-05 39
                 RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY Careyadmin Jul-19-05 47
  other forums? Lisa Jul-18-05 34
     RE: other forums? mammy Jul-18-05 35
         RE: other forums? Lisa Jul-18-05 36
     RE: other forums? nutmeg Jul-18-05 40
         RE: other forums? Lisa Jul-18-05 41
  Sol Cabanas Del Caribe? SWM Jul-18-05 42
  More details from Aldora re: south side of the island dragonguy Jul-19-05 43

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Charlesadmin
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1. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
In response to message #0
 
   Here's a supposed overlay of Cancun radar on top of google earth map.
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=68444

storm2k forums
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=31

Stormcarib "plea for help" forum, info and some pictures posted
http://help.stormcarib.com/list.php?5

Isla Mujeres board-the discussions are as much about Cozumel
http://help.stormcarib.com/list.php?5

The island leveled? I would wait to hear/see reports before making any assumptions. Most of what matters (in my not so humble opinion) has been through worse. I wouldn't bank on reservations at the Reef Club, Iberostar or Ventanas del Mar anytime soon.

Emily appears to be very approximately like Roxanne, perhaps a little stronger, but shorter in lenght of time. The vegetation has probably suffered horribly. It will take some time to clear the roads. Undoubtedly the utility lines have taken a major hit. After Roxanne the were lines/poles/transformers laying everywhere in the streets. I was thinking weeks not days. There was very little structural damage from Roxanne. The first priority will be in restoring the electricity to power the pumps and water system. After Roxanne, Cancun and Merida were untouched so CFE and Telmex sent in work crews from the pennisular. We had two cruise ships in port, two days after the storm and about 85% of the downtown and waterfront were fully functional. It will probably take two days before Cozumel can have truck transport.

I would never under estimate the drive and determination of the pueblo. After Roxanne the people collectively went about clearing the streets, repairing the damaging and rstoring their lives. The economy of Cozumel suffered greatly after Roxanne because so much mis-information was spread by the forces against Cozumel. It was only through the cruise ships and dive shops that the outside world knew that the island was back in business so quickly. My best guess past on past performance is that Cozumel will be halfway back to normal in a week. My guess is tourists will be flying in next weekend and be able to enjoy all their favorite past times with the exception of the other side of the island. My guess is most of what was on the other side of the island is scattered from somewhere in the middle to the other side of Tulum.

We'll just have to wait and see. Let's see what happens when they turn the power on probably later today. There are a lot more generators and self sufficiency to day than ten years ago.


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Charlesadmin
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2. "A previous post regarding Roxanne and aftermath"
In response to message #1
 
   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roxanne was an example of the resourcefulness of the people and a blantant display of the anti-Cozumel attitude of Mexican City. One week after the storm the island was fully functional. Two cruiseships came into port 48 hours after the storm passed and might be the only time the ships benefited the pueblo in general.

Mexico City and Chetumal worked overtime to damage Cozumel and provided next to nothing in aid. The island picked themselves up, repaired and returned to business as usual in amazing speed. Thanks to the workers of CFE and Telmex, workers came in from Cancun and Merida and worked literally day and night restoring phone and electricity. I remember lineman working at 2:00am holding flashlights in their mouths.
All phone lines were down and it was difficult to get accurate information out. European press reported that all the houses were blown down and they were digging mass graves to bury the dead (no deaths, one broken arm from the storm). Mexico City reported that the island was largely destroyed, put out notice to travel agencies to not send anyone to Cozumel and did not lift the warning for three months. Travel agents were told to send their clients to Cancun which had been spared.

This was before the glitzy new construction and the downtown area lost signs and awnings, but was built so securely that almost no damage was done, minor flooding, no broken windows. What spared the vegetation, perhaps why it was not so noticed by Rechard a week later, was the massive rainfall prior to the storm. Opal, a tropical storm the week before had dropped 21+ inches of rain and saturated the ground. Trees and shrubs were uprooted rather than snapped off. The park in Corpus Cristi was flattened and people simply "righted" the trees and staked them and within a month were near completely recovered. This period was a rainy time and approximately 55+ inches of rain fell in a 22 day period.

The storm sprang up overnight and there was little time to prepare. It began with a near stationary tropical depression off Honduras which turned into a cat 3 (?) and was on top of Cozumel in 24 hours. The mayor of Cancun was on the radio at midnight before, trying to calm the people...."it is merely a depression, it is not moving, it is four days away, it may not even form a hurricane, there is no reason for this panic buying". The mayor of Cozumel, 12 hours later was on the radio screaming "alarma! alarma!, it's going to hit". Hurricane force winds hit around 2:00pm and lasted till after midnight. Right before the eye was to hit the storm turned toward Tulum and basically Cozumel remained in the eyewall as the storm slowly rotated. A more direct hit and the passage of the eye would have been a blessing and shortened the real bad time.

The neighborhoods were trashed with utility poles and lines everywhere. The Mayan "huts" were quickly blown away in early afternoon (they were rebuilt in less than a week by picking up windblown lumber and laminas), but whatever houses weren't blown away were largely undamaged. Power was turned back on the following night (explosions of transformers and electrical shorts everywhere) and the following morning people were picking up live wires in the street and reconnecting them. It took two days for the off island crews from CFE and Telmex to arrive and more permanently restore the lines. The community shared food, supplies, shelter, unblocked the streets and quickly returned to normal.

You'll never find a more resourceful people with the abilty to cope with adversity. The economy of Cozumel suffered far more from the damage resulting from the false information put out by Mexico City and Chetumal than in damages from the storm. Thankfully those people are out of power, Felix and Bello are in Chetumal and even the Palacio is back in Cozumel hands with Gustavo.


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Jul-18-05, 04:32 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: A previous post regarding Roxanne and aftermath"
In response to message #2
 
   When the facts role in about this storm, please post what the need is! Plenty of people that want to help.

Cindy


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4. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   I too say lets wait and see. The first media reports in Texas after Cat. 5 Gilbert hit in Sept. 1988 said the island had "disappeared", which could not have been more wrong. It may be a day or two before clear and acurate reports come out. I certainly would not be alarmed nor convinced by sensationalist reporting on websites or message boards.


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5. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   MY FRIENDS HAVE PHONE!!!

50TH (S) AND BETWEEN 17-19

The house survived - Windows are ok - debris in the street not a lot of water!
no power yet

The Road Warrior of Real Estate
Cindy
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Tia
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Jul-18-05, 06:06 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Well, that is good news for you and encouraging for the rest of us.

Thank you for posting.

Tia


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GlenAlan
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7. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   I have a house on 50 bis, between 19 and 21. I hope it is still standing. Good news from your friends. I will try and contact my neighbor today, but who knows. Keep praying. Glen.


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10. "8:00AM Monday Report"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jul-18-05 AT 08:27 AM (GMT)
 
I just spoke with my friend Albert who lives on Ave. 35 near Calle 3 Sur. He hasn't ventured too far from his home but said the damage in his immediate area was not as bad as we feared after seeing some of the speculative reports on TV this morning. He lost power around 9pm last night but kept land and cell phone service. At his home the only damage was some downed tree limbs and he said most of that had already been cleared by city workers. He hadn't seen any downed power poles but did see a few downed lines. He wasn't sure if they were cable or phone or electric. There is a police sub-station not too far from his house and he said they lost their 100 foot radio communications antenna. He also said while there was heavy rain, he described it as a relatively "dry" storm without as much rain as expected.

Joel
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8. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Cindy,

That is great news. Obviously it sets to rest preliminary speculation that can fuel rumors that Cozumel is "levelled"...not so! It sounds like your friends sustained minor damage. Please post more details as they get out about their routine to inspect damage and investigate conditions locally. And hopefully Carey and AJ also have phone service and will soon report to us.

Everyone there is in our hearts and thoughts today. If a hurricane aid fund is set up I know most will want to help. I know someone who has reservations to go down to Coz on Thursday...not sure if she's still going. But if she is, she can take funds and she can be trusted. She has very close friends and ties to Cozumel.


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11. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   In reference to Charles remarks above - why would the politicos in Mexico City and Chetumal minimize the importance of events in Cozumel or wish to cause economic harm to the island? I ask because, in addition to really enjoying the island over the years, I am a news hound - and no matter which news source I check - be it domestic or foreign - there is almost no mention of Cozumel. In fact, you would think that the only city of consequence in Mexico is that disgusting Wallyworld called Cancun.


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9. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   The report this morning on CNN said that "we don't have any news from Cozumel, since everyone including the weather office left the island." Pretty ridiculous. The news here focuses almost entirely on Cancun. Anxiously awaiting more reports.


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12. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   More from our friend Alex Diaz from the Reef Club. He said he'd send pictures as soon as he gets out.

His house and neighbors have done just fine, no real damage anywhere up and down the neighborhood - boards are coming off, branches in the street. Some stories where branches fell just right on something and it broke but nothing substantial so far. We'll have more as they move around!

Keep posting info.

The Road Warrior of Real Estate
Cindy
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Carol C
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14. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Just wondering, when you talk to your friends next time...ask them if they are seeing tinacos in the street. Somebody on stormcarib posted that his water tank blew off the roof, but I'm wondering if that was just a freakish accident from an unanchored, perhaps new tinaco, or is it commonplace. If multiple tinacos are down, that would indicate very high winds indeed. That's why it will be interesting to see what is found in the streets...if it's mostly tree limbs, palapa and other roofing, some glass, we'll all be greatly relieved to hear that's about the worst of it. And hopefully no lives were lost...that's the main thing.


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Careyadmin
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45. "Classification of debris"
In response to message #14
 
It's Tuesday. I've been biking around for two days now and the only debris I see in the streets is a WHOLE lot of downed trees and branches. And on the waterfront hotels north of town it blew away everyone's artificial sand. Minimal roof damage even to the rickety little places. It must have been a high up wind or something (how
s that for a scientific term.) Because it snapped a bunch of our trees right at about 10 feet and the low stuff was just fine. Who knows. But it's amazing how little damage we sustained now that I read about the storm after the fact.

We'll try to find out about the scene south of downtown later today (I'm writing this on Tuesday at around 2 PM.)

Carey on Cozumel
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Casa Cascada, a lovely rental villa with a super convenient downtown location
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15. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
In response to message #12
 
   Great News! I have a reservation at Reef Club for this Friday. If you talk to Alex again, I am hopeful that the resort and dive shop are ok and will be able to take guests by the end of the week. I've been praying hard for everyone on the island and I am awaiting more good news.


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LorieS
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13. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   We also have just heard from a friend on the island. He said they had a little water in the house but it's already been dealt with and that the neighborhood he lives in has some limbs down. Said it was a long, noisy night but at first look it doesn't look too bad near San Miguel. And everyone he has talked with reports no injuries. He is going to get around the island as soon as he can call us back. We are supposed to go down Friday. Hopefully, things are not as bad a the news would have us believe. We will keep in touch and thank you all for your posts and updates. To the folks down there, we are still keeping a good thought for you through the clean up and repairation, and do let all of us know if we can help in anyway.

L


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16. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jul-18-05 AT 09:00 AM (GMT)
 
Tina and I have been praying for our neighbors and friends on Coz.
We are glad to hear first reports are looking encouraging.
We pray there was no lose of life and that the reports stay good.

Ron M.

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18. "Interesting Perspectives"
In response to message #9
 
   It really has been interesting to follow this event, both on the TV and here on the boards. On television, everything is definitely about Cancun. Clips of people in the pool at resorts talking about how "cool" this is going to be and how they'll have stories to tell when they get back home a couple of days late.

Here on the boards, I kept refreshing my screen every 5 minutes hoping to see posts from the people who live on the island. It's incredible to me how I could never have met you guys yet be so concerned about you and your safety. Well, maybe not so incredible. You're all just great people! Then, what really gets me, is reading all these posts from people who have reservations and are worried they won't be able to come. No concern whatsoever for the inhabitants or the damage that may have occurred. It just feels insensitive somehow. Not sure why I'm feeling so strongly about this right now either.

Anyway, I just needed to get that off my chest. I'm at work, but this message board will be in the background on my computer all day waiting for updates from some of you. May the damage you sustained be minimal. Our offer to bring things with us in 4 weeks most definitely stands should you need anything!

Kandy (dreaming of Cozumel)


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22. "RE: Interesting Perspectives"
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Hey Kandy.......I saw the same thing happening on the Cayman boards last year after Ivan. And Grand Cayman got leveled! People were worried about there reservations and if their resort was gonn'a be up and running. I understand that a lot of people scrape pennies for their vacations and it is a very important thing in their lives, but have a little compassion!

Steve

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17. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   I heard from friends who live in Corpus Christi area of Coz, via cell phone. They are ok, lots of water/flooding, no major damage to their house (including two large palapas on the roof). They, too , are out now trying to assess the rest of the island, so no, it has not been "leveled". Electricity still out and lots of debris reported. I think it will be little while till we find out about the rest of the island. Major part of the storms seemed to hit them between 11am and 2am this morning.


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19. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   We spoke with my bother Sean this morning who has a Tavern(Riley's) on Salas. He sat out the storm in the place said was a little intense, he lost a "few" things off his roof but otherwise no other real damage. He said there was a fair amoutn of debris scattered in the road outside. He is going to venture out and look at the immediate area.

Joe Riley in Denver


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Jul-18-05, 09:28 AM (GMT)
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20. "OPTIMISITIC MONDAY AM REPORT"
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   My daughter is honeymooning on Cozumel and is renting a private home in town through Cozumel Villas. They arrived Saturday, 7/16, and I was shocked this morning to learn that they were willing and able to go to the island after their arrival via Cancun early Saturday afternoon. She called this morning to report that they are safe, that the storm was “a little loud and a little scary,” there was "a little bit of water" that got in the house, but otherwise no damage to the single story concrete block house that they are renting. While they had not ventured out, their initial sense was that there were a few trees down, but otherwise they could not detect a lot of damage to the immediate neighborhood around 15th Avenue Sur. When I called the Cozumel Villas office in Colorado, they had reports of more serious damage at some of the properties that they manage north of town. I must admit that my information is preliminary and inconclusive, but I share it because it is positive and hopeful. Personally, I wish that those who are speculating with negative information, such as a network news person this morning who said that “the entire island must have been devastated by a 25 foot storm surge” would keep their negative thoughts to themselves until the facts are in!

davepausa


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46. "I was afraid of that"
In response to message #20
 
That the news people would be hyping this and scaring everyone to death. That's why my highest priority was to get in touch with my parents and let them know we were fine. I didn't realize my phone was working for the first 12 hours on Monday. Just assumed it didn't. But as soon as I figured this out I called them.

Everyone is fine and glad to be here. Word is still out on damage to the beaches south of town but San Miguel is doing very nicely and the north end has 3 days of work to get back in business. It was buena suerte good luck to some extent but also remember that Cozumel -- at least the northern and central inhabited sections -- face west which is largely sheltered. We don't get the giant waves on this side of the island.

Carey on Cozumel
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Casa Cascada, a lovely rental villa with a super convenient downtown location
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dragonguy
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21. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Just received the attached via email from Dave Dillehay at Aldora Divers:

"Even though the eye went through the south end of the island damage has been minimal. I would like you to post the following item:

For our concerned friends and customers…don’t worry!

Last night at midnight the northern eye wall of Emily passed over Punta Sur with 135 mph winds, and slightly reduced velocity in town. It is now gone on to bother others and we hope they have as much good fortune as did Cozumel.

At 8 am Memo Mendoza did a preliminary survey of damage. Some power lines down, branches in the streets, but apparently little or no water damage. There was no tidal surge at all. The Villa Aldora suffered a little water in the Courtyard Norte, Barracuda Suite, and Cameron Suite, due mostly to wind driven rain. My long suffering dock at the Villa (wiped out by Ivan last year) had no damage at all.

All of our boats were safe on land and tied down. As of 8 am on Monday we are dragging them back into the water and getting ready to dive again. It is our goal to be diving tomorrow, July 19th.

We have not been able to check out the rest of the island and we fear that some of the beaches on the windward side may have been damaged and our friend’s windward hotel, Ventanas Al Mar, was certainly at risk. We will provide a more comprehensive report when we have information."


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23. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Thank you for sharing this update; I followed the storm progess last night on hurricanecity.com and when the eye passed south of the island the winds hitting the northwest side were clocking at 125 mph; needless to say I went to bed very concerned about the people on the island.

All indications so far is that the damage is repairable; interesting to hear that they plan to dive tommorow. I am coming down on the 27th and will be curious to see how the reefs fared.

I have a house down there near the airport; hopefully it survived and I have a place to stay!

Karen


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24. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   That's great news!

I love diving with Aldora.


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25. "Cozumel is Built"
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   Remember folks, we ain't talking Florida here. Cozumel has no trailer parks. They don't build luxury homes (like the States) out of plywood, sheet rock and 2 by 4s. Homes are built with concrete and rebar which handle hurricane winds very well. I would expect that 99% of the homes are undamaged. CNN has already started..... no reports in yet regarding Cozumel, looks bad for heavy damage. I don't think so. If any of these people knew Cozumel they'd assume the contrary. This storm would have been devastating in Florida and Americans find it hard to believe that something in Mexico could far better survive. There are a lot more generators and this time cell phones. I wouldn't worry, my guess is everyone is fine, but fresh with stories. The community "needs" a storm every so often to clear out the brush and bond the community.

My prediction: diving as soon as the water clears and largely back in business by the weekend. Trish, are you accepting reservations now?


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28. "RE: Cozumel is Built"
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   Thank God the damage wasn't as bad as we had anticipated.
Yes, many homes are more hurricane proof in Cozumel than in Florida, but what about all those "stick" houses with "tin" or corragated cardboard roofs? Does anyone know anything about that?
I just got off the phone with a friend who lives on Ave. 30 & calle 10. She said that they are ok. She also said that Ventanas del Mar, the hotel her brother owns is ok. I was thankfully surprised about that. My espańol is not good and she doesn't speak english, but she repeatedly said "Todo bien" re: her home and the hotel. We also received an email from someone who works at Chankanaab who said that the park was "devastated" I don't know exactly what that means? He is in Honduras right now, but he spoke to someone who is in Cozumel.

The people of Cozumel remain in our prayers.


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26. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   That is great news. That is who I will dive with in September. I am so glad our friends are alright. Thanks so much posting that info.


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27. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   I also talked to a friend on the island this morning.
Most damage reported was trees down. Once they get the electrical looked at, they plan to turn the power back on.
Javier's voice was cheerful and there was laughing in the background. The Mayan's are very resourceful. I'm sure that most everything will be back to normal by the weekend.

People who have reservations should of course verify that where they are staying is OK. But don't go canceling because of what happened last night. More than ever, this is the time when tourists are needed on the island. They need our support.


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29. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Anyone have information on how the north hotel zone held up? My daughter plans to be married at the Coral Princess Next Tuesday and we planned to fly out this Thursday. Also, what about damage at the airport? Any information would be much appreciated.

Lynda T.

Lynda


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30. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Just heard our house is undamaged but without electricity. It's 8 miles south of town on the beach.


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31. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Just spoke to another friend on the island who said that a cement wall around the baseball field around Av 35 & 11 was down as well as some lights in the field. Trees are down in various places. Many of the stick houses are ruined or gone. Let's not forget those on the island who aren't as fortunate to live in the more secure homes.


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32. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Lynda...
Somewhere, I don't remember where now, possibly on storm2k.org ...discussion forum... general talk or possibly on stormcarib.com... I read someone reporting of their experience at the Coral Princess... I'm just remembering, so this is an approximate retelling. If I can go back and find it, I'll post the link. However, what I remember was that as guests, they all gathered in a conference type room to weather the storm. That the front doors of the hotel (these are large glass doors) blew in, along with lots of water and some windows were broken but the hotel was structurally sound, and everyone there was fine. Given the resourcefullness, hard work, and extreme motivation of cozumel support staff, you can bet that they would have gone to work fast and hard to clean up. By thursday, your arrival day, they will have had three days to clean up. What can get done in three days in cozumel is Amazing. . I would bet a huge bet that they'll be No Problem with your daughter's beautiful wedding.

Jill


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33. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Just found out that my unit in Palmas Realas on the North End close to Coral Princess had lots of glass breakage, worse on the east side of the building. My unit is 12 stories high so sure wind was worse, I have a great respect for the people of cozumel, they will come back better than before the storm.


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37. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   >Just found out that my unit in Palmas Realas on the North
>End close to Coral Princess had lots of glass breakage,
>worse on the east side of the building. My unit is 12
>stories high so sure wind was worse, I have a great respect
>for the people of cozumel, they will come back better than
>before the storm.

Your unit was on the 12th floor and had broken windows? Was it from debris or the wind? On average, how big were the panes of glass? As an architect, I'm really curious what causes building failures.

I'm buying a unit at Nah Ha and I thought the 6th floor was high enoough to get out of the debris field. I'll find out tomorrow how bad it is when I get there.


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44. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Not sure at this point if it was debris damage or just high winds, at that height even during mild winds down low it is usually twice as windy . Imagine once 1 gave way they all starte going, as of now still no inspection because of concern yesterday of glass still falling as they went in. good luck on your new unit


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38. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Lynda...
I just came across this on another site:
Re: Status of Cozumel
Posted by: Capt. Bill (IP Logged)
Date: July 18, 2005 02:27PM

Spoke to Miguel at the Coral Princess less than 30 minutes ago. Minimal damage to hotel, electricity still out, they expect it back on within a day or two. Phones are working. Reservation employees are not in today, should be back in tomorrow, and should be available to answer all questions then. They are hoping to have everything back on track within a couple days. Don't cancel or reschedule yet. Sounds like everything may be back in order soon.


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39. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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   Nutmeg,

Thank you SO much for all your helpful information. We're going to go ahead with our trip as planned. Our wedding coordinator at the hotel said he would send me an E-Mail as soon as he is able, so it sounds like I should hear something from him tomorrow. Once again, thanks. You've calmed a lot of frayed nerves.

Lynda

Lynda


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47. "RE: HURRICANE REPORTS MONDAY"
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I think you'll squeak in on that wedding. The Coral Princess looks fine except needs new sand and one glass front door replacement that blew in. I was just out there this morning checking it out and the staff were given warmest praise by those trapped in the hotel during the storm.

Carey on Cozumel
Owner/Manager
Casa Cascada, a lovely rental villa with a super convenient downtown location
http://www.cozumelmycozumel.com/Pages/CasaCascada.htm


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34. "other forums?"
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   Does anyone know any other active Cozumel forums to check for updates?


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35. "RE: other forums?"
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   I've been watching Wahootours.com.too. There is some info there and
someone is going to post pictures as soon as they can. Thankfully things sound better than I expected them to be.


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36. "RE: other forums?"
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   Thanks! I'll check there too. I am happy to hear the optimistic reports as well!


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40. "RE: other forums?"
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   >Does anyone know any other active Cozumel forums to check
>for updates?

These aren't "active coz forum"s, but these sites are carrying updates:

stormcarib has recentley set up a specific page
http://help.stormcarib.com/list.php?5

also http://www.stormcarib.com/reports/2005/mexico.shtml


http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=31
is a page within storm2K.org 's general talk forum where anyone with an update is contributing.


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41. "RE: other forums?"
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   I have been updating Storm2K with info from here and other boards... and getting a little testy with a guy who wants to paint a worst-case scenario, despite the positive info I am seeing.


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42. "Sol Cabanas Del Caribe?"
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   Any word on Sol Cabanas Del Caribe on the north end? I'm scheduled to come there soon and would love to hear a report! Thanks to anybody who can give me some insight.


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43. "More details from Aldora re: south side of the island"
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   From the Aldora website:

Monday July 18th. 9:00 pm

A tour of the island revealed a lot more problems than had been expected. It seems that the further south of town and the worse was the wind. That computes since the north edge of the eye wall was at Punta Sur. For those familiar with the island we offer the following:

60% of the new palm trees planted on the new main street downtown have fallen. The airport fence has collapsed. A large concrete wall across the street from the Scuba Club Cozumel has collapsed and partially blocking the road. Further south the giant palapa above the Puerta Maya cruise ship dock is gone. The giant palapa at Playa Mia ( formerly Playa Sol) is gone as is the rest of Playa Mia. That day beach resort will be closed for a long time. San Francisco beach, Mr Sanchos and Nachi Cocom all suffered some damage but should be back in operation soon. On the south end, on the other side of the island, the Paradise Beach Café (AKA Ragas) is completely gone and the larger buildings across the street are heavily damaged. The road on the windward side is badly damaged and not passable north of El Mirador so we could not reach Coconuts or the hotel Ventanas al Mar. We could not get into most of the southerly hotels so at this time we cannot give reports on their condition.

At this time electricity is on in the main street and most of the Northern Hotel Zone where the Villa Aldora is.

In summation, there is some damage to infrastructure on the island but probably no more than 10% of the land based infrastructure will be affected long term.

As for the diving, it appears that most of the damage to the dive sites will be from wind blown debris. However, we did hear a report that some shallow snorkel sites like Dzul Ha suffered significant damage from waves.

We expected to launch the boats today as there was no practical reason not too but the civil authorities did not allow any activity not related to clean up, thus they kept the port closed. We expect that to be changed tomorrow. This will be updated as we get more and better information.


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