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#21 nauticab

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:19 PM

i am trying to get the paypal acct info that has supposedly been set up. as soon as i have it, i will post. she URGENTLY needs to get to florida where she will receive specific care for her spinal cord injury. the hyperbaric chamber work done here is excellent and pretty much complete and she is in the best of care. at this point though, specialists need to take over. the air lift to florida will be $17,000usd. this is what is needed right now.

as i have info, you will too,
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:03 PM

i am trying to get the paypal acct info that has supposedly been set up. as soon as i have it, i will post. she URGENTLY needs to get to florida where she will receive specific care for her spinal cord injury. the hyperbaric chamber work done here is excellent and pretty much complete and she is in the best of care. at this point though, specialists need to take over. the air lift to florida will be $17,000usd. this is what is needed right now.

as i have info, you will too,


Doesn't she have DAN Insurance? They will pay directly for the airlift, but you MUST contact DAN directly to make arrangements. There is a toll free number on the back of a DAN Card (I don't have mine handy right now) to call. One VERY good reason EVERY diver should join DAN (Divers' Alert Network) & carry the DAN Insurance.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:46 PM

Doesn't she have DAN Insurance? They will pay directly for the airlift, but you MUST contact DAN directly to make arrangements. There is a toll free number on the back of a DAN Card (I don't have mine handy right now) to call. One VERY good reason EVERY diver should join DAN (Divers' Alert Network) & carry the DAN Insurance.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:50 PM

I do believe that you cannot be covered with DAN insurance if you are working in the dive industry? there is some insurance available through PADI for working dive masters and instructors...? I know it can be costly for many in the industry and they don;'t feel they need to have it, but when these kind of things happen, any insurance will be helpful. Is there a Paypal account name that one can send a donation to? We are off the island right now, but can do something online?
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:09 PM

I am an Instructor and I have DAN Insurance. I am a Pro-member. It would be a good idea to see if Opal has DAN Coverage. I think the PADI Insurance you are referring to is for teaching. My DAN Insurance would cover me personally in case of an accident.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:12 PM

Our prayers are for all three. My husband is an avid diver and I also am a diver but do not dive anymore due to a medical issue.
It is scary thinking of what could have happened. My husband read the post and explained that anything could have happened but insured me that an avid diver would have not exceeded the maximum depth to 300 feet unless there was something wrong. Back in July my husband and another friend who is a dive master and instructor went on a dive while there and my husband had a incident involving a contaminated tank of air. He said at about 80-100 feet he became dizzy and began to hyper-venelate. He said he notified his dive partner and begain a slow ascent which turned into a rapid ascent when he felt like he was about to pass out. Just shows that anything can happen. My husband has been diving for many years and has never had this happen.

What ever happened with these experienced divers is serious and my husband believes the facts of what happened would be valuable information to all divers. With the incident he experienced he learned an important lesson and from what happened with this trio will be a lesson to all divers.
He said hello and will be there October 14th with his dive buddies for a week of diving.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:19 PM

while i know the facts of the dive based on gabi and opal's brother, i will not share them at this point. if the family wishes to share it at some point, i am sure they will.
unfortunately, only heath (opal's friend) was insured. which is why the paypal funds will be to help offset the bills for gabi and opal. it is true that dive pros can not be covered by dan. could be a cozumel specific thing. i was almost denied coverage for an undeserved hit during a pleasure dive with other DMs simply because i am a DM here in cozumel. they covered me and then changed the rules shortly thereafter.
there is however a program DAN has coordinated with dr piccolo for cozumel instructors and DMs. still need to be insured tho.
so yeah, even if you dive once a year, get your insurance, PERIOD.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:31 AM

Not varified, but as per SB: Opal is an American Citizen.

As per SB: Opal has been taken to Florida for treatment.

I checked again this morning on SB, and it was again stated that Opal is in Florida for treatment.

I tried to get this verified before posting, but was no able. So, that is why I did not post the info last night.

As for "rampant speculation"...that isn't be done HERE.

I think most people ask two questions when an accident happens;

1. Are they okay?
2. How did it happen?

Nothing wrong with that. It is human nature to want to understand something that may not be obvious.

I wish only the best possible outcome for all involved.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:18 PM

Opal was transferred by Med-Evac flight last night and arrived in Miami, Florida about 11:00pm local time and is currently under evaluation.

Her condition is very grave and only time will tell to what extent she may recover.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:49 PM

Well the so called story has been posted.......if you choose to believe it or not is up to you.....
post # 184

http://www.scubaboar...-4-11-a-19.html
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 05:25 PM

Well the so called story has been posted.......if you choose to believe it or not is up to you.....
post # 184

http://www.scubaboar...-4-11-a-19.html


I went over and read that post and found it to be thoughtful, intelligent and beautifully written. It also agrees with everything I've been picking up from my contacts here on the island where I live.

It's a very sad situation, no doubt. But I'm really glad this gentleman posted what he did. Because the suggestion that strong or rogue down currents were responsible for this accident, has, as the scuba board poster put it, been completely discredited.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 09:47 PM

I understand that Opal is now in hospital in Miami. Hopefully we will have more (good) news soon.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 08:31 AM

Frankly, I'm very glad for the factual description finally given of this incident. The initial speculation of a rogue downcurrent as the precipitating cause (supported, on the ScubaBoard thread, by a firsthand report by the 3rd Diver) frankly had me a bit worried; it would not cause me to quit diving Cozumel, but it might have made me avoid certain dive sites, or been more nervous than necessary while diving them. I have experienced downcurrents on Cozumel before, off both Santa Rosa Wall and Barracuda, but nothing that a reasonably trained and prepared diver couldn't cope with. Also, if you read the ScubaBoard Threads that deal with this incident, both in the Coz forum and in the Accidents and Incidents forum, you'll see that the lack of info was causing certain people to believe that Cozumel was an inherently dangerous diving destination that ought to be avoided, and that frankly just breaks my heart. I love Cozumel, and I think it is among the top 2 or 3 destinations for diving in the Carribean (along with the Caymans, which is beautiful, but just too expensive, and Belize, which I love, but it's harder to get there, and the accomodations and dining options aren't nearly as good). It would really be a shame for this incident to frighten divers away from Cozumel just because the true causes of the incident might prove to be embarassing to those involved.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:07 PM

Nobody knows that you ‘know most of the details’ until YOU broadcast about it yourself.

Fyi: Whether you to share any detail, some details, no detail at all, will in no way changed the course of events for the injured divers. It’s ignorance of the truth / or facts that caused rumors and speculations to start. Do you agree?

So why invite anyone to come to YOU and ask YOU any questions that you are now so willing to find out the answer to if that’s how you really feel? This is not about you and this is too much drama!

We all wish the divers well, and most importantly, we wish them a speedy recovery.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:31 PM

You know, I would agree with ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE WANTS A SPEEDY RECOVERY.

Everyone has moved well beyond the original post by Kevin...Which without it, nobody would have know for quite some time that an accident had happened.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:39 PM

Nobody knows that you ‘know most of the details’ until YOU broadcast about it yourself.

Fyi: Whether you to share any detail, some details, no detail at all, will in no way changed the course of events for the injured divers. It’s ignorance of the truth / or facts that caused rumors and speculations to start. Do you agree?


I'm not quite sure where the hostility here is coming from. Or even to what you are objecting re her post.

Dailene lives here, has the contacts and was just doing her best to find out the real story. She could see a huge level of concern from many online communities that are interested in Cozumel and Cozumel diving. There was apparently quite a lot of unfounded rumors and speculation right after this story 'broke' and she went to the trouble to try to get as much information as she could from the horse's mouths. I appreciated that she took the time to do this. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this sentiment.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:36 PM

Carey or someone that can post on MCM
I'm sure there are people on that forum that would appreciate the info on this incident.Surprised it's not there?
I have never posted there so maybe someone could.
I would like to thank "nauticab" for her report, since then there have been more confirmed reports on scubaboard.
These are the people I dive with now, prayers for all.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:50 PM

Well Gabi just posted a response on the other board......he is basically glad to be alive and thanks GOD for helping him go to 400ft to save Opal.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:20 PM

400ft to save Opal????

It is obvious it is possible, but oh dear GOD the consequences.

Hoping for the best possible outcome...

What a wonderful man, and friend Gabi was...
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:40 PM

What a wonderful man, and friend Gabi was...


That's your typical Mexican guy in my experience. They are very brave and very good in crisis situations. It's one of many things I really admire about the culture.
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