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#1 morenita

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:48 PM

Enlighten me as to what it is. I have known individuals who were really into it, but did not really know what it is.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:25 PM

nice overview: http://nccam.nih.gov...lth/homeopathy.
there is a comment in this article that states:
Homeopaths expect some of their patients to experience homeopathic aggravation (a temporary worsening of existing symptoms after taking a homeopathic prescription).

a common reaction relating to this is when i have a cold or sinus infection. once one starts taking homeopathic remedies, their nose may run more, or cold-like symptoms increase. but that is EXACTLY what you want... to get the junk out of your system. conventional drugs which dry you up do not cure the problem...they just stop the symptoms. homeopathic is like cures like, similar to a vaccine. many get the flu when they get a flu vaccine. i do.

i have been diagnosed with full blown sinus infections, unable to bend over for the pain in my sinuses. took this stuff and was able to dive with no problem. and 3 to 5 days later, completely gone. other dms used it with the same results. dr morales in the chamber completely agrees and he is an ENT specialist. same with dr negron. i only go to them if i lasped in my own treatment and it got worse or entered my bronchials. that's about 10% of the time i guess.

my kid had a terrible time teething at 6 months. nothing, and i mean nothing worked. a friend told me about hyland's teething tablets. my son (hence both of us) had not slept more than 2 hours a night for 2 months. the first day he got these tablets he slept 4 hours. the next night 6 hours and stayed that way for months. there was no coincidence. his pediatrician, dr paola, turned her patients onto this remedy once she saw the results. she too encourages homeopathic.

my friend's sister is highly allergic to cats. sneezes and swells up if enters a home with a cat in the other room. i gave her the allergy remedy (she didn't believe in the stuff and was ready with her other meds just in case), and she had 3 cats sitting around her for 6 hours and not a single sneeze nor congestion.

i have diarrhea remedy, gastrointestinal remedy, headache remedy, cold and flu, sinus, skin conditions, allergy and hay fever, etc etc. the stuff works.

stateside docs are so driven by the pharmaceuticals that anything outside of the norm (2000 years of chinese medicine is stragely outside of the norm) is quackery. so i am not surprised that anyone getting taught by stateside docs are sceptical. stateside docs hardly know anything about parasites either (pretty much a quote from Dr. Oz). when i did need to take conventional meds, i was encouraged to continue the homeopathic meds, as there are no problems mixing most of them. not to mention no side effects. and i was able to use it during my pregnancy (checking with dr rechy first and getting it approved).

hope this enlightens you and helps you open your horizons in your medical future.

my $.02 and unless there are questions about the products i use, i will not post anymore about type of treatment. there are many articles on the web, algunas en contra, algunas en favor. all i have to say is try it.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:32 PM

Nauticab.... I suffer from severe sinus infections and would love to try your remedy. I hate the way antibiotics make me feel and would love to give the natural remedy a try. If you don't feel comfortable posting here, please PM me. Thanks in advance :)
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:40 PM

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:45 PM

I will not comment on whether I agree or disagree with it. I do not want to be offering any opinion. Just to understand it from the users point of view. I have studied its history but want to know how a person in the 21 century understands it. Please correct me if I am wrong. I thought it was invented in the 1700's in Germany. I understand what you say about your personal experiences but what is your understanding of the history, supportive studies, why it works, dillutions etc. At least if you are comfortable doing so. Not going to make any judgements here, just call it research.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:16 PM

my comment regarding chinese medicine being considered quackery by many modern doctors was an example of how "unconventional" meds are unaccepted by (mostly) US docs. natural and eastern medicine in general fall under this umbrella... this includes accupunture, homeopathy (yes germany in the 1700s), herbal remedies, even chiropractic.

the stuff i use can be found and bought online...
http://www.vitasalus...dicine?limit=15

instructions of use on each bottle...typically it is 1 to 2 tablets under the tongue every 2 hours. a bottle of 200 tablets lasts me and my family about a year. not bad for under $10.

i have not done the research as to why a certain medicine prescribed by my doc works, why i need to take X painkiller instead of Y painkiller for a tooth versus shoulder pain, and why i need to take 4 different meds to combat bronchitis. i ask what each is for and i do question side effects, but to do the research on each med, no. i think i speak for the majority that they don't either. hell, my questioning the doctor is more than what the average person does. most don't even tell the doc other meds they are taking which is a terrible problem here.

i have researched enough to know there are no side effects, there are very very very few problems taking homeopathics with other drugs, and there is no expiration date either. keep them in the cool dry place with the top closed and they are fine for years and years. i have read you should not touch the tablets with your hands as the natural oils in your hands can reduce the effectiveness, but that may be a false claim. also a quick shake of the bottle before opening supposedly helps activate the ingredients a bit more. not to drink anything a few minutes before or after has been told too by dr lozano says that is a false claim as homepathics are given to babies in their food. oh, and overdosing is pretty much nonexistent.
pick up a magazine with a drug ad for cholesterol and there are 2 pages of side effects and complications. i choose the method with the least small print.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:33 PM

I will not comment here unless it is a situation where I am in total agreement (in sopport of it). I am not here to pass any judgement. Just to understand what people who use it understand about it.

So I will say that from everything I have studied there are ZERO side affects.

I am very familar with the "like cures Like" or homoios (similar) and pathos (suffering or disease). But would be more interested if anyone else has any input as to why they think it works? If anyone knows more of its history? Understands the theory? The science? The concept of dilution? "Law of infinitesimals"? Memory? Shaking? Again absolutely no judgement. Just my personal research. Nothing else.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:13 PM

Thanks Nauticab! I think I will order a bottle of the allergy medicine for my husband as well.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:55 PM

when my kid had a nasty cough that would not go away with full treatments of meds, nebulizing, etc., i thought maybe it was the mildew from our new construction and cement dust. so i tried the allergy remedy. in 2 days his cough was gone. he was 3 at the time. i gave him half dosis.
let me know how it works for you. just remember that it needs to be taken regularly for a few days to take effect... one dosis won't do it.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:58 AM

Cookie Lady
Hi at the risk of putting my 2 cents in where it does not belong. I suffered from polyps and sinus infection for 18yrs day in and day out. I had two failed operations. the second did damage to the structure of the nose. I finally met a doctor who is one of the leading ENT surgeons in the U.S. He told me he could help me and he did. After the operation he gave me a list of things to do to help ward off infections. He also said anytime I have a cold to come in and see him. After a period of time I realized I did not need him all I had to do is what he was telling me to do. It is to lengthly to put down here.
But if you want to give me a call I will be happy to tell you what I have learned. Remember I suffered for 18yrs day in and day out.
Maybe I should not talk for rear of putting a jinks on myself. but if you want to give me a call I will be happy to talk with you and you can decide if this is something your interested in.
If you send me a message I will give you my tel. number

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:02 AM

Alot of people say chiropractic is quackery, but it healed all of my sports injuries...

I am not saying I believe in homeopathy or not, but I would not cast judgement on it either.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:01 AM

I found a great deal of information in regards to coconut oil. Seeing how we are talking about homeopathy therapies, I thought this would be excellent info to share.

http://www.cbn.com/m...mp4/LJO190v1_WS
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:33 PM

Is tequila considered homeopathic? Just looking for a reason......
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:41 PM

Is tequila considered homeopathic? Just looking for a reason......


I think it is - helps relieve sexual frustration :D
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:25 PM

"overdosing is pretty much nonexistent". TRUE. Regardless to which side you believe. Whether it works or it does not work. The overwhelming research is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to overdose and there are ZERO side affects. I have my own opinion about why that is, but no judgement here. I only want to understand it better.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:12 PM

i always find it interesting that while a medical therapy that has been used for hundreds or thousands of years gets questioned and questioned of its validity and effectiveness, a "mainstream" pharmeceutical drug has been around for less than 20 years with hundreds of negative side effects and complications with other drugs never gets a second thought.

drug companies have such a hold on american medical schools and hospitals, it's no wonder there are so many health problems. countries that practice "alternative" medicine are so much healthier than americans in general. yet the majority of americans question it. proof is in the pudding when you ask doctors here about the use of natural remedies.... all docs i have dealt with here are FOR THEM. why? i guess that part of it has to do with the LACK of pressure from the drug companies as compared in the states.

some modern drugs are necessary. but so many diseases and health issues can be addressed naturally and/or with homeopathics without all the negative cr*p that comes with them.

we will all put cr*p in our bodies never taking the time to research how it can affect us. when your doc gives you an RX for a throat infection, did you go home, research it on the web to determine it's effectiveness and how it works etc? or did you run to the pharmacy and buy it and take it according to doc's instructions because you want to feel better? do you REALLY know what is in the stuff you use everyday? have you read and researched your shampoo bottle? talk about cr*p in your body. i only buy organic shampoos. have not found them here so i bring them down.
http://www.healthy-c...g_in_shampo.htm

so before questioning incessantly the effectiveness of centuries-proven remedies which are mostly unaccepted by the modern american medical profession which insists on pumping our bodies full of chemicals with horrible side effects, perhaps the public in general should focus on the everyday junk we are putting in our bodies and find that THAT could be the source of our ailments. (morenita, this comment is NOT meant to be directed at you... it is for anyone who shares the scepticism/doubt/desire for more research which IMO is way too common...please do not take offense, since that is NOT my intention at all)
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 07:42 AM

No offense taken. As I was saying in initially starting this thread my only interest is to learn more about homeopathy. My intent is not to critique homeopathy or to defend "modern medicine". I am only trying to understand it more thoroughly. The only comment I would make is that homeopathy is its own methodology and that is what I would like to understand. Unforntunately to date I have yet to find anyone, among people I have personally talked to, who likes it and really understands it. I am hoping that will be different here.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 07:50 AM

More research never hurts. Proven throughout the centuries isn't really that scientific. Bloodletting was proven through the centuries. Now, not so popular. Not to say there isn't probably a lot of useful stuff out there. Without research, who can say what really occurs? For instance, the placebo effect has been noted over the years, so individual results have to be suspect. The stronger the belief, the greater chance your body might be reacting to the belief and not the substance. Of course, whether it is the power of your head or the pills, if it works, great.

Of course, pharmaceutical companies are in the business of selling drugs, so it really, really is a good idea to do your own research on any prescription. I can't argue with that. Find out if the horrible side effects are common or one in a million. Both will probably appear in the literature, as the lawyers will come calling. Of course along the way, research led to the removal of some drugs proven to be harmful.

And thanks to the power of the internet, you can always find the answer you want. I found mine here Salud!




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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:24 AM

Nauticab, I too would like to know what it is that you take for allergies. Our winter up here was pretty non-exsistent and the allergy season is crashing down very early on us sufferers. I HATE taking pills that make me drowsy just so I can cope with the symptoms. Please share and if you know where in the US I can order the products from. I would be most appreciative. Thanks!!
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 03:13 PM

Sodium lauryl sulphate (SLS) has been replaced in many shampoos and detergents with Ammonium lauryl sulphate. It is the ingredient that makes the shampoo foam up. This replacement has larger molecules and does not absorb into the skin. I remember reading research on SLS years ago. The two sound very similar but are really very different. Not going to bore you with a whole lot of chemistry here. The Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) of the U.S. government is not intended for the general public but rather for those who handle these products in the production phase. But I do love reading it. Fascinating information if you have an extensive chemistry background. For the general public not so much. I personally would worry more about cocamide than SLS. I like natural shampoos myself and they are available here. I personally do not like alot of chemicals in or on my body. The research cited in the article that you refered to was done in 1998 ( 14 years ago). But most recent research has concluded that SLS is not harmfull if used in a noncontinuous way, meaning brief use in the shower followed by rinsing with water. SLS is derived from Coconut oil. The American Cancer society says claims that it causes cancer have been disproven.

I almost NEVER take prescription drugs and I do research every single one on the internet when they are prescribed to my friends or family. I have never taken medication for a cold, flu, congestion etc. I prefer to let time be the cure. With the average healthy person a cold will typically go away in 7- 10 days or if you take prescription medicine it can go away in as little as a week to a week and three days. The symptoms of a cold are actually the response of the bodys immunal defense system. Very slight fever (in a healthy individual) is not dangerous it is actually the bodys defense.

Many parents will give medication to a child or infant with only a slight, but insignificant fever. They do this out of fear, without any understanding as to the benefit of a slight fever. A fever increases the production of T cells which are a significant aid in the bodys fight against infection.

Rest and hydration are still the best.

CH3(CH2)10CH2OSO3NH4 Ammonium Lauryl Sulphate

CH3(CH2)11OSO3Na Sodium Lauryl Sulphate
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