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#1 nauticab

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

the fast road, autopista, is complete all the way around.
the beach side road, or ciclopista, is also complete all the way around. it is restricted to BIKES, no cars, and as far as i understand and saw today riding, no motos either. there are cut thrus to the beach areas.

the changes to be, which will take some serious signage and a large learning curve, is the section between la caleta and iberostar on the beach road.
it is marked from caleta southbound until iberostar as such:
the southbound lane will be for car and moto traffic. ONLY SOUTHBOUND will be permitted on this road. the northbound lane will be reserved for bikes going north and south (bikes share a lane). this means that if you are headed south to paradise beach, then want to head back to money bar, you will have to leave paradise beach, get on the autopista north to the caleta turnaround, then south again to money bar. no right turns onto the old road from the autopista. gonna take some getting used to, and like i said, MAJOR signage. in the meantime, we cyclists are riding southbound in the car lane.

once you get past iberostar, the sign is clear in english and spanish NO MOTOS and that it is a bike lane. today the cops started the campaign of directing cars and motos properly. i told them the signage may need to be even clearer, as in NO CARS, NO MOTOS, ONLY BICYCLES ALLOWED. there is a little bit of overlap at punta sur, then the bike road is in effect again along the ocean.
even though the speed limit on the autopista is a ridiculous 110kph, it does not mean you have to drive that fast. i never do. you can slow down,enjoy the sights, pull onto the many cut thrus.
please do NOT drive your cars/motos on the beach road, as appealing as it is. not only does it impede on our security as cyclists, the road was MADE for cyclists with a finer grade asphalt and large heavy cars and other motorized traffic will simply break it down faster, making it full of potholes and dips again.
also, the transversal right side lanes have been converted to bike lanes in both directions from the speed bump til mezcalitos. only drive on the inner lane. the bike lane then crosses over at mezcalitos to continue onto the bike road.
this has to be the most progressive thing i have seen happen in cozumel and i am thrilled. pro coaches, due to these additions not seen anywhere else in the world, are pushing to make cozumel a home base for training for triathlons!
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

I drove the "bike" road today...not sure what the expectations were/are but auto and motor traffic is going north and south just as before. Not a bicycle in site.

I would NEVER ride this road with the expectation that autos, and scooters would be aware of this being a bike only path. It's not a question of training the auto/scooter drivers, this may just not be the right road to do this on.

The road is heavily used. The cut offs are pretty much non existent for popular places like Money Bar and Fiesta American without going way out of your way. Taxi's pile up in the south bound lanes to pick up fares. Auto's and scooters heading south WILL go into the bike lanes to get around the congestion, right into the bicycle lane.

I don't even want to drive it anymore because GOD FORBID a bicycle rider is out there and they cross into my path to avoid getting hit from a north bound driver.

Please be careful out there.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:59 PM

it is NOT a bike only road until iberostar. they are starting to enforce it, to get the word out as tourists and locals alike can't read the damn signs that say "NO MOTOS" and the generic bike lane signage and painted bikes on the road. i stopped a buggy tour on the other side from mezcalitos...he looked at me like i was crazy.
however, from caleta to iberostar, it will eventually be a southbound car only lane, and a northbound land for bikes going north and south. for now though, i am only riding in the same lane as cars, staying to the right. once i get to iberostar and on the other side, i ride in the middle of my lane. and i (and others) are telling the cars to get on the main road.
it is going to take some time for people to get used to this. car rental places need to be aware and more info on the radio and with taxi drivers and tours needs to get out there. but like i said, if you drive a car, please do NOT drive from iberostar to mezcalitos on the "old" road, or beach side road. the surface is special for bikes and too much car traffic could break it down.
police controls on are working on patrolling this.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:43 AM

It is going to take awhile for everyone to get used to the "new" roads. On the east side, where do we park now? On the shoulder of the highway? Seems kind of dangerous considering the speed limit is a crazy 110km/h zone in some spots. Just curious how I'm going to park my butt on the beach without getting killed crossing the highway, or having to climb up the median to the bike lane, and then down to the beach with my chair and cooler...
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

so I think I understand.

The only BIKE ONLY LANE is from Iberostar to Mezcalitos...in operation NOW.

Your future plan is to use the old highway from la caleta and incorporate the whole route to Mezcalitos at a future date.

Is that correct?

I think a reasonable approach would have been to select certain days, and times to close the road to vehicle traffic, but not 24x7, and certainly not on the week ends.

As for police escorts, I think it's a good idea, as long as it is not on the clock, and you are paying for their time, or they volunteer. We are all certainly aware of the issues going on here.

Before you rip me a new one, I understand and appreciate your enthusiasm for your sport,and hobby. But, I also enjoy driving the old road into, or out of town. It reminds me of the reason I moved here...it is a relaxing drive, and seeing the water is breathtaking.

I truly think a compromise is in order, and not simply an announcement that the road is closed, and this is now the usage.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:57 PM

Wow - how did the bike people get this done? In my humble opinion if they do this they should allow the motos on the bike road also. It would be so much safer for them.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:37 PM

paula incorrect.
caleta to iberostar, which has the lovely views of the ocean, will remain a southbound lane for cars. the northbound lane is marked for bikes only. again, will take time to get used to that. you can drive all the way to iberostar in your car as usual. you just won't be able to go north.
from iberostar to punta sur there is NOTHING TO SEE as it is not near the beach. this is closed to bikes only as marked on the signs.
watching the news the other night, transito says the old road on the other side will be for motos and bikes. i agree, will be safer, as long as motos respect the speed limit. i will confirm tomorrow. this is punta sur to mezcalitos.
the transversal has 2 dedicated lanes for bikes. there are so many folks who commute via bikes living in the ranches so it gives them safety as well. not to mention tourists who rent bikes to go to the other side. see them every time i ride.
police escorts are a public service. we give them drinks and often food for a long day as a thanks, but it is a service FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN COZUMEL. just like if there is an event and they need public security, they are there. honestly i think i am the only one calling for the assistance and that is once a week.
the cut thrus that have always been there, are still there. you can safely park there between the fast lane and the bike lane, and go to the beach. where there are no cut thrus are typically places with limestone as beach, not fun for making sand castles. LOL

the big deal is that cozumel is getting recognition as THE place for triathlon and cycling events and as a potential training zone/training camp year round for athletes from all over the world for weeks or even months at a time. this means people visiting for extended periods of time, buying stuff, eating out, renting homes, etc. so yes, as a triathlete, it thrills me. as a business owner, it thrills me. the island NEEDS this and needs to stop depending on cruise ship folks that buy next to nothing. get it like it was in the old days. it's a different class of people. a class of people that positively influence the health of our people here and who are giving back to the community by offering sports scholarships etc to the kids.

it is a good thing. oh, and selecting certain days/hours would certainly not work here. no one would get it. :) just like in many places in the states, it is a bike lane, period. (not ripping you a new one! lol)
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:03 PM

I have to agree that not being able to drive on the scenic old road will suck. One of my fave things to do is to drive that road every visit...

As far as Nauticab’s comment about ‘the old days,’ the old days was always based on cruise ships, and their staying in port overnight. Once they stopped doing that, the businesses on the island went straight to hell. Back then bars like charlies were PACKED, restaurants like Pepes were reservation only (and enforced dress code), and the shops remained open for years. So I do not understand where she gets the idea that cruisers buy nothing, they were probably 80% of the commerce on the island.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:50 PM

the average cruise ship passenger spends (if i am correct on this, and i know i am not way off) is a measley $17 for the day.
your views of the ocean are NOT changed. there are a couple of dunes blocking the view here and there. the fast road is adjacent to the bike road.
rent a bike and enjoy it the best way.

you must not know the OLD days of cozumel. old days of cozumel had 1 or 2 ships a week, and the place was packed week long with people spending money. people who spent more than 6 hours at port.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:26 PM

I usually don't comment on these types of posts but.... I did the math and it's like this: let's say there's an average of 2 ships per day when you average it out over a year. Each ship has an average of 2000 passengers. That is, using your $17 average, 68K per day. 6 days per week is 408K per week. That is just over 21 million per annually. What I like about the boats is that I can stay away from the malecon and not even know they're here. I can go to the other side for instance and get away from it all. I don't know how many people are expected to come here from around the world to train but as of now it seems this is just beginning and already it's affecting the whole island. Now I do enjoy cycling, not competitively, but I like to ride my bike and here is an awesome place to ride. The problem is I also like to drive my car and would find it stressful to drive on the road, trying to enjoy the view on the east side with some taxi driver right on my tail because I want to take a leisurely drive and he wants to finish up with this fare so he can get to his next. Not sure what the ideal solution is but I hope it doesn't involve losing any more road.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:32 PM

the average cruise ship passenger spends (if i am correct on this, and i know i am not way off) is a measley $17 for the day.

your views of the ocean are NOT changed. there are a couple of dunes blocking the view here and there. the fast road is adjacent to the bike road.
rent a bike and enjoy it the best way.

you must not know the OLD days of cozumel. old days of cozumel had 1 or 2 ships a week, and the place was packed week long with people spending money. people who spent more than 6 hours at port.


Oh I do - when the ships used to stay overnight and the island was like the MTV beach party... They may spend 17 bucks per day now, but back in the day, they used to spend 17 every 30 minutes...

As far as the view, you're probably right, but it just "feels" like the old road is so much closer. Depending on temps, maybe a bike would be cool...

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

OK, I've head this post about three times to make sure I understand it. First, we've been coming to Coz once or twice a year for 15 years so I know my way around. So, in gringo talk this is what I have to do. Leaving Casa Del Mar I can go south, hop on the old road and go as far as Iberostar where I will have to get on the new road to Punta Sur. So far so good, I haven't run over anybody yet. To continue north I have to stay on the new road so if we want to stop at Punta Morena, San Martin, Coconuts or any of the small souvenier stands set up along the way I have to look for a cut off to the old road. Do many of these exist. I think making it harder to get to these place would have them a little upset. Anyway, headed down next month so I want to be sure I'm headed in the right direction. Enjoy!
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:52 PM

i posted iberostar, but it is actually just past playa palancar since this is a frequented place to visit. then yes, hop on the autopista. the autopista is for cars in both directions. you can access all these beach places from the big road/autopista via pre-existing cut thrus from both directions.
the caleta to palancar is NOT in effect yet, but they are working on the logistics/signage/etc. just try to only use it going south to get used to it.
to sum it up, you can use the old road until palancar. from there it is bikes only.
i rode it today and still had tourists, taxis, and motos on the exclusively bike road.
car rental companies, tours, and the taxi union need to adhere to these traffic changes.

so i am asking all of you, even if you don't see bikes out there, please respect the new traffic flow. there are signs, the road is painted. signs are posted. if you are driving and see bicycles painted on the road, find the nearest cut thru and get on the other road. people are training all hours of the day, from early morning til late afternoon.
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