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#1 mexcelia

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:35 AM

A night to remember.........hope you enjoy B)

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:00 AM

Carnaval isn't over until the burning of Juan Carnaval on Wednesday! Go see that to complete Carnaval.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:21 AM

Well, I guess I have a lot of learning yet, thanks, Charles (wondering if I should change the title?) :D
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

Just curious.....Do the cruise ships stay in port longer ( or even overnight ) during Carnaval? We have been there just about every other time of year and holiday but we have never been able to schedule a trip during Carnaval.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

hoping someone sees this as I have no idea...........so, bump
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Mexcelia, Carnaval celebrations have ended, but the final act is the burning of Juan Carnaval. The event tonight in the downtown square, Benito Juarez Park starts at 8:00 (supposedly) with awarding prize winners with the burning of Juan scheduled at 10:00PM. It can cause confusion as Carnaval official dates always include Ash Wednesday. I can think of a few others deserving to be hung up and burned beside Juan. A minor event, barely worth much effort (in my opinion), I used to go most years if convenient. It's a lot later than it used to be though. If it works for you, a nice photo closure to the grand event of the season. I'd be tempted to suggest a taxi from their base for a ride home at that hour.

Optimist, No, the cruise ships never stay late or make changes for the benefit of their passengers to see Carnaval. They never stay overnight unless they have some reason or need on the part of the cruise line. Back when the ships stayed late, they needed to depart before midnight or get charged extra for a second day. Back then if you knew what you were doing, passengers could at least view the parades. Now most of the ships leave by 5:00 or 6:00PM.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

Thanks Charles. Too bad for the cruise people. You would think the opportunity to view parades etc would be an added attraction for this week's cruises. Maybe even a premium rate? Not that I am a big fan of cruises anyway - I am not. It would leave a few extra $$$$ in the restaurants and shops if they stayed even a few more hours. I guess there is no money in it for the Cruise companies or they would do it.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

Carnaval is an event not to be miss.

It truly brings everybody out to be part of either riding on a float, or on the sidelines cheering, and grabbing for beads.

I love to see the little kids faces...they are having a blast!
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

Thanks for the heads up, Charles. I might take a peek, but, since I just woke up from a three hour nap, I might wait til next year. And, Optimist, I'd run into some cruise passengers out on the transversal where they were putting the final touches on the floats (I was sneaking a peek) and they hadn't even heard about Carnaval.....it apparently wasn't something that was mentioned on board, remember being so surprised since it had been all consuming for me for a couple of weeks...........and you are right, Coz2Wonder, the expressions on the little ones was priceless, trying to imagine what was going through their minds :D
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

From my limited exposure to cruising - the cruise lines make a lot of their money on bar sales and casinos. When the ship is in port the casinos are closed. And when people are on shore, the cruise lines get very limited income from the on-shore bars (is any at all). They want you on their ship drinking their booze and gambling at their casino. Thus (alas) they do not stay late enough to see any of the nightlife. I've been told that the ships go around in circles during the night to stat at sea longer (like taking 14 hrs to go from St Thomas to St Marten when you can get there in abour 2hrs if you go straight).
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:55 AM

prior to the hurricanes in 2005 many of the ships stayed well into the evening.

After Emily, and Wilma the ships would tender the passengers into port. This they claimed would cause a safety concern to tender the passengers back to the ship when it was dark.

What the ships found out very quickly was, if you reclaim the passengers early, and leave port early they make much larger profits for themselves onboard.

Even though our docks have long been repaired, and there are no safety concerns, the ships have not changed back to having passengers stay longer in port.

Lots of things on the island changed here based on that decision of the cruise lines.

It is, what it is.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:56 AM

Not to start a big debate, but wondering if the trade-off is worth it.........with the cruise ships the coral reefs lose, more garbage seems to accumulate on the beaches and there's so much less income for the hotels, nightclubs, restaurants etc. Guess I'm just reminiscing about the days before the ships were docking........when I, too, was a tourist and marveled at how simple life seemed here
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

the garbage on the beach has nothing to do with cruise ships.

The cruise ships are not leaving. If they do, it will be the end of life for many families who are depended on them to make a living.

As for the coral reef, the hurricanes did more damage to the reefs in a single event. The good news...nature is recovering.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

where is all the garbage coming from? (went out for a "trashy event" and was saddened by the amount) Don't remember the beaches looking like that before............but, as always, appreciate the info, and glad to hear the reef is recovering :)
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:17 PM

It's the trade winds, and currents that bring this in from other eastern island in the Caribbean.

It can be caused from storms, earthquakes, tanker ships at sea that loose their containers overboard, and/or simply dumping trash at sea.

An example of the ocean currents, and trash, is what is still washing ashore from the tsunami that happened in Japan. That debris is still washing up on the west coast of US, including Alaska.

A few study has been initiated which are researching the ocean currents in regards to the tsunami event, as well as a container that went overboard on a ship that contained sneakers.

Sneakers were turning up in many different places depending on the way the current flowed.

I remember reading one event where police where called because they thought there was a mass murders being committed. Single sneakers were turning up on the beach, and they were of all different sizes, and colors.

Turned out, the sneakers where from this container that went over board. :)
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

sorry, had to giggle at the sneaker part.................thanks for the info, still learning here (still giggling too)
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