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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:46 AM

Never did, never would.  However, if I break something I want adequate pain relief!


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:43 PM

Living in Cozumel is not as cheap as you might think. Certainly more than I suspected it would be. We carry a major medical policy which not exactly expensive helps to contribute to our monthly budget items. House is paid for and we do not really get out much. Still looking at 2k a month. Maintenance of property is killer on this island.

After looking at what Charles posted I would be really be second guessing a move here. You have to admit the guy does his research.

First off, I appreciate all the posts.  Second, this is rough site when it comes passwords.  I've got a LOT of passwords I keep stored in an encrypted site.  Mine don't work here, but I'll figure it out.  Last, I had to go out of town for a couple of weeks on business and worked too many hours/day to do anything except go to sleep when I got done.

 

Hillbilly, I realized a long time ago that living there wouldn't be cheap.  I've put a lot planning into this.  That's why I joined this group.  There's things I need to know about outside the island & that's what this post is about.  Financially, we'll be fine.  Lorrie's health?  My 1st concern!  I've found in life that most hurdles can be overcome.  Not all, but most.  I hope this is the case here.  I appreciate your input.  Looking forward to meeting you if you want.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:53 PM

Most of the expats I've talked to go back to the States (or Canada) at least 1x a year. Some are on a regular 6 month rotation for visa reasons. I trust you will be coming down to rent and check it out thoroughly before plunging into a full-on move/homebuying. The quality of life for your wife is paramount... maybe she can bring 6 months of her meds with her.

Here in the States the main drug(Oxycontin) she requires is only allowed(DEA) to be prescribed monthly.  Yes, this a road block, I've found those can be overcome w/enough info & determination.  That's why I'm on this site.  You people are a terrific source of knowledge!  Kudos!


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:57 PM

There may be some alternatives to add to your wife's drug therapy.

 

Cozumel can have a very calming effect for people, and perhaps your wife will benefit from that.

 

We have Yoga, water, and physical therapy, along with some limited physical strengthening.

 

Change in latitude can be a very positive therapy.

I agree w/the changes in latitude, but she has all those(except Yoga, for a reason) & until they figure out how to regenerate nerves(they're working on it at the NIH) her left leg feels like a hot iron is running up & down it.  It is what it is.  Appreciate your input!


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:57 PM

I am aware that there are good dermatologists in Cancun and Merida.  I have been to several of them.  I stated that there wasn't a good one on the island and I didn't think there was in Playa either, Traveler.

 

I do not enjoy making trek to Cancun.  It's long, it's dusty.  It's hot.  And adding in what?  $1400 MXN RT on Maya Air plus the transportation into Cancun from the airport ain't nothing if you do it a lot.

 

Just trying to give this gentleman a realistic picture of life on the island.  Those of us who have lived here a long time still appreciate the fine things about this place.

 

But we also sometimes get out of touch with what expectations might be for a stateside newcomer moving here for the first time.

 

I sincerely hope that the gentleman who started this thread with questions about pain management for his dear wife, comes down first and rent a place for 3 months.  This is especially important in your situation.  Bring enough meds to get through a month and spend that time trying to see if you an make the medical establishment here work for you -- or not.

 

The good things I've seen about Mexican doctors and treatment -- usually never have to wait, doctors tend to have great bedside manners and never make your feel like you're keeping them from their next appointment.  And I believe, except in the case of specialty stuff, they are at least as well trained as their US counterparts.

 

The bad side is many or I should probably say most don't speak any English and that is nothing a quality one looks for in a doctor or a lawyer in particular!  Also there does appear to be a very different attitude towards pain management by many doctors here who seem to still subscribe to the no pain no gain school of healing which has been supplanted in many cultures by the hard evidence that pain in and of itself slows healing and is not a necessary for the body to get better.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:02 PM

Mexico does allow morphine as pain medication, but largely only in clinical situations. Under rare situations a doctor could administer it during a house call. There is no system for pain management allowing a patient to receive needed medication in a home environment. If a person had major (painful) surgery, they might receive morphine initially, but likely after the first day they would be switched to Tylenol.

 

Once IMSS (Social Security) offered me extra strength, 500mg of acetaminophen! They said it was extremely strong and to not take more than 1/2 tablet every 12 hours. That was for a ruptured kidney, bleeding, the result of a botched hernia surgery. I declined their two tablets offered.

 

Cancun has been radically working to catch up in their medical facilities in the last ten years. Merida, a larger town, a real town, has long had a high quality, state of the art medical reputation. They have had International "medical tourism" for decades. Many people from throughout Latin America and from Eastern Europe have chosen treatment there. My opinion, you could receive treatment for many things that would be equal or superior to what might be obtained in the U.S. and at a fraction of the cost.

See my post to CozAholic(good handle there)


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:04 PM

If your planning on bringing those types of drugs in, I would do two things.

 

1.  Have a safe to store them in.

2.  Do NOT tell anyone these are the drugs you have.

 

Just like a home, these types of drugs are prized by addicts.   Oxyco is Hillbilly heroin with crushed, melted and injected.

My safe goes where I go.  It'll just have be smaller as I won't need my rifles there.  Been wondering about owning hand guns there, but that's for a different topic.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:59 PM

 

..:: Chronic Pain Specialist::..
   

 

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Dr. Andrés Alejandro Medina Gutiérrez 
Algólogo | Anestesiología | Medicina Hiperbarica y Subacuática

"DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT OF PAIN "

Gral Postgraduate Hospital "Dr. Manuel Gea Gonzalez" and the "Angeles del Pedregal Hospital" Mexico. Df.

e-mail: aamg_98@yahoo.com

Behind Altabrisa Mall
Torre milenium Altabrisa 5th floor
Office # 507 Calle15 N°491 x 22 

Phone:(999) 313-01-58 Emergencies 24hrs Cel: 999 218 2826

 

 

 

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Coz, you give me hope.  If you don't mind I'll shoot you a PM.  That's up to you.  Going to Merida for a day by flight would be OK.  Might spend the night if we like the city.  Their web site suggests they don't speak English.  I'm only 33% towards being proficient in Spanish(I'm working on it, Lorrie..) so I'm asking this group if they know of a translator I can hire in Merida.  Or an ex-pat there who speaks Spanish well?  I'll pick them up when we leave the airport, take them back & pay for very good translation.  I'd rather not fly a translator there from Cozumel.  I will contact the clinic and make the appt.  I do have the translator software & while it's VERY formal Spanish it'll work for setting up an appt.  We'll be there the last 14 days in May '14. I have all her records on disc.  The paper file is over 2' thick & IF I bring it to Cozumel some day, it'll be my carry-on luggage.  Too much private info: SS#, DOB, etc .


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 06:10 PM

I am aware that there are good dermatologists in Cancun and Merida.  I have been to several of them.  I stated that there wasn't a good one on the island and I didn't think there was in Playa either, Traveler.

 

I do not enjoy making trek to Cancun.  It's long, it's dusty.  It's hot.  And adding in what?  $1400 MXN RT on Maya Air plus the transportation into Cancun from the airport ain't nothing if you do it a lot.

 

Just trying to give this gentleman a realistic picture of life on the island.  Those of us who have lived here a long time still appreciate the fine things about this place.

 

But we also sometimes get out of touch with what expectations might be for a stateside newcomer moving here for the first time.

 

I sincerely hope that the gentleman who started this thread with questions about pain management for his dear wife, comes down first and rent a place for 3 months.  This is especially important in your situation.  Bring enough meds to get through a month and spend that time trying to see if you an make the medical establishment here work for you -- or not.

 

The good things I've seen about Mexican doctors and treatment -- usually never have to wait, doctors tend to have great bedside manners and never make your feel like you're keeping them from their next appointment.  And I believe, except in the case of specialty stuff, they are at least as well trained as their US counterparts.

 

The bad side is many or I should probably say most don't speak any English and that is nothing a quality one looks for in a doctor or a lawyer in particular!  Also there does appear to be a very different attitude towards pain management by many doctors here who seem to still subscribe to the no pain no gain school of healing which has been supplanted in many cultures by the hard evidence that pain in and of itself slows healing and is not a necessary for the body to get better.

It's all good.  I appreciate all the info I get!  Too much info beats the cr*p of too little in my opinion.  I'm determined to make this work.  We WILL move there!  It's just whether I fly her to Key West/Miami monthly or Merida.  It ain't nothing but a thang.  Can't live w/her, but can't imagine living w/o her.  We'll be there, it just takes planning & I've got several years to do that.  You all have no idea how much I appreciate ALL your input.

 

I sincerely thank you!


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:03 AM

My safe goes where I go.  It'll just have be smaller as I won't need my rifles there.  Been wondering about owning hand guns there, but that's for a different topic.

 

A story from the past about the hand gun deal: There was a guy from Chicago that owned a condo at Puesta del Sol for a couple of years. He had a new little VW bug to go with it. He opened a really sweet Italian restaurant across from the old La Choza. He wanted a hand gun too and talked about it with several local NA restaurant owners. The police overheard one of the conversations and without actually breaking any law, they picked him up for attempting to possess. They took him to his condo and told him to pack a bag. They had him give them the title to his car. They said he wouldn't be needing it. They drove him to the airport, escorted him directly to his seat on the first flight out and told him to never come back. That was the year of Isadore, whenever that was. He has not returned.

 

It is a misconception that people cannot own guns in Mexico, but for a North American......it's not happening.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 11:59 AM

Boy, Oxycontin may be even harder to get then anything else.  I would definitely factor in costs for a monthly flight to the US to get refills until proven you can even get it in Mexico.  At least have that as a back up plan for before she runs out.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:21 PM

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:25 PM

 

A story from the past about the hand gun deal: There was a guy from Chicago that owned a condo at Puesta del Sol for a couple of years. He had a new little VW bug to go with it. He opened a really sweet Italian restaurant across from the old La Choza. He wanted a hand gun too and talked about it with several local NA restaurant owners. The police overheard one of the conversations and without actually breaking any law, they picked him up for attempting to possess. They took him to his condo and told him to pack a bag. They had him give them the title to his car. They said he wouldn't be needing it. They drove him to the airport, escorted him directly to his seat on the first flight out and told him to never come back. That was the year of Isadore, whenever that was. He has not returned.

 

It is a misconception that people cannot own guns in Mexico, but for a North American......it's not happening.

If it's legal to for a US citizen legally living(w/all proper paperwork) to own a hand gun then it seems like it's just a matter of paper work & fees?  I'm not going to do anything illegal there.  Went to jail when I was young for some stupid cr*p(not a felony, just young stupid cr*p & that was 40 years ago) for a couple of months & learned my lesson well.  I've only had traffic tickets since.  I legally own many guns, most for hunting, but my wife & I both have concealed carry permits in TX.  When we move there I will leave all my rifles & shot guns w/friends & family to keep in their firearms safes for use if I'm back in TX during deer, pheasant, duck or dove season.  I will not bring a hand gun down until I know I have a license to show any official.  Look, we catch/release all bill fish & only keep fish we will eat.  I'm not a killer, I just like to hunt & fish. 

 

So is there a legal way for me own a hand gun on Cozumel?  If it just takes paperwork & waiting in lines I'm going to have a lot of time on my hands when we get there.  Please understand this friends: I'm NOT asking you to do my homework.  I can Google w/the best of them.  I'm only asking because it's possible someone in this forum has already done this research.  If not, I'll do it & share it w/the group. 


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:46 PM

Hey, Marlin, while I love to see hope spring eternal, there was a story a couple week ago about a guy who found burglars in his home.  He ran them off with his air rifle from Chedraui.  The cops came, took the report and took the air rifle.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:18 PM

They did give the BB gun back.  I was looking at the BB guns in Chedrui's today.  They had Cammo ones for about $200 usd's.  I even saw they had BB's.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:48 PM

So is there a legal way for me own a hand gun on Cozumel? 

 

The answer is unequivocally N O spells "No".  Get yourself a machete.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:44 PM

Interestingly, according to old Rollybrook, that isn't exactly true.....  He says you might get a gun if you have more than a FMM?  Read it HERE.

 

 

AND 200USD?  Holy cr*p.  I saw them and didn't check the price.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 07:38 AM

Interestingly, according to old Rollybrook, that isn't exactly true.....  He says you might get a gun if you have more than a FMM?  Read it HERE.

 

 

AND 200USD?  Holy cr*p.  I saw them and didn't check the price.

Thank you, that was exactly the type of info I hoping someone already had researched.  IF this research is reliable, and I no reason to believe it's not, it just a matter of time, paper work & pesos to get to the point to wear I can even apply for a gun & then more of the same to actually get the gun and appropriate permits.  I appreciate the info, it gives me a starting place for my own research.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:02 AM

I would be interested to hear how you make out on that.  I hear there is some good turkey hunting, particularly in Campeche.


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