Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:42 AM
Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:42 AM
Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:28 AM
I always tip the filler guys, too. Usually 5 pesos. Nobody in the states thinks to do that but it's really appreciated down here. Needless to say, no tip if you think you're being stiffed. But if you stand right there and watch, I don't see how that can happen.
In my case, the tank on my old 93 Taurus wagon (beater) that I drive here is on the passenger side. Before I would turn off the engine, get out and stand up on the driver's side and tell him how many pesos I wanted and watch him zero it. Then I would unlock my gas tank with the inside button and watch while he filled it.
Now I'm going to come around to the other side of the car and stand right in front of the 'chine, staring at it intently the whole time. Some of you might feel stupid doing this. But, in truth, the Mexican workers will respect you for it. They won't like it if they were planning to try and cheat you. But they'll respect you, nonetheless.
Posted 26 May 2010 - 01:03 PM
Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:41 PM
You see the number of liters increasing, but this guy is not putting any gas into your car at all.
Basically you are getting air, if you know what I mean...
Or some fuel and a lot of air.
But it all looks like you are actually getting fuel...
We ´bought´it this Sunday.
And one of our guests experienced the same trick this Monday (they blamed it on the old instruments in the car....).
I went back, took a picture of the guy first ("smile") and then politely asked back my money. Which he did without any hesitation, being too afraid he was gonna be famous in a day.... So watch out...
Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:55 PM
Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:13 PM
So I was looking at the gas guage while he was pumping the gas. I didn't put more than twenty miles on the car and he charged me about twenty dollars.... To add insult to injury, the guy at Alamo said the car didn't have as much fuel as it had when I took it, and asked for five dollars more!!!! Well there was no way for him to know the exact amount I started out with... We are talking a very small amount. So I refused to pay the extra five bucks and it was charged to my credit card.. It's tough when your in vacation mode to have to watch out for scams and thiefs when the amount is so trivial...
Same kind of thing happened at Mozaicoz. I enjoyed going there after a dive and having a couple beer, great place to people watch on the square... Paco, (that was his name) shorted my change and then just stood there with the look of oh, please don't call me on this, so I just didn't tip. He would of made more from the tip
Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:53 PM
you can also ask for a certain number of liters instead of a peso amount to pump. so if you drive and use a half a tank, in say a VW bug rental, you can assume about 14 or 15 liters.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:11 PM
Leo -- how do you know this is happening? And what can be done to stop them from doing it? Sounds like nothing unless you have some method of figuring out how many actual (non-air) liters have been added to your tank
Also are you noticing this at a particular station?
For those who don't know, there is only one gas station company in Mexico, Pemex. There are three stations on the island. One south of downtown around the cruiseship piers. One downtown on the Avenida 30 con Juarez and a third out near the edge of town near the start of the cross island road, the Transversal as it is called.
Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:36 AM
The local franchise owner is Nacho Joaquin.
Posted 27 May 2010 - 06:04 AM
I knew because the tank of the small car I used was half full when I went to the gas station. 37 liters went in. I drove 220km. The car can have maximum 40 liters....
Then my client this week used half the tank of his rental car. He put in gas (100% air), they told him his gauge was not ok "old car amigo" brought back his rental car and got a discussion there that he did not buy gas. So he went back with the owner, and filled up half the tank. So he knew he did not get ANY gas.
Yesterday we were talking with local friends. Last week they had to pay a lot at the same gas station. They just paid and went away. Now we were discussing this subject... They paid more than 800 pesos. And just now realized that is more than 100 liters. While their car can only handle 60 liters....
I would say look at your gauge and calculate how much fuel you need approximately, so you know that is right and then check your gauge whether you really bought the fuel...
Posted 27 May 2010 - 08:01 AM
Posted 27 May 2010 - 09:43 AM
So how do they make the liters gauge continue show it pumping yet no gas gets into the car?
What sort of lever would be on a gas pump that would double the amount you owed....or is this a play on the "type in the amount you want" vs. how much has actually been pumped?
Their typical mode of operation is to act “confused” as if the tank is full and ask you to go around and check the gas gauge. Since the pumps are LED screen models, they then enter a prepaid amount such as 200, 300, 400, 500 pesos which will show up on the screen as the amount to pump plus (or minus) whatever they have pumped. The attendant then says "look here is the amount”. But the liter amount is at “0.00” because it is pre-set for another fill. (Alternatively, the amount of pesos he entered minus what he has pumped after he changed the meter. i.e. 375 pesos left to pump from 400 pesos entered and you only got 5 liters.)
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 10:18 AM
Which gas station are we talking about? I usually get gas at the one on the Transversal at around 75. Last time was 6 weeks ago and I didn't notice a problem then.
So that's the other question -- #1. Which gas station did this happen to you and your friend, Leo? #2. Is this something fairly new? Sounds like it?
Posted 27 May 2010 - 04:40 PM
How they do it?? I don´t know... I am just a fisherman.... I know when they hold the handle it looks like they are putting gas in. You see the gauge moving, liter another liter etc.
I talked with Margarita from Isis about it and she knew this new trick. They do not squeeze the handle completely. The gauge keeps running, the fuel not.
Posted 27 May 2010 - 04:51 PM
Rotary Mechanical Meter or Digital meter it wont "pump air"... its the design of the pump.. If some insist it will then please explain how it does it.... how it changes from fluid to air and while your at it explain away the static charge as well. BOOM!
#2 But just for fun lets say it did ..for who's purpose/benefit would that be for except Pemex? If the running meter shows 1,000 liters sold for the shift, there better be enough cash to cover what that pump says it pumped. There are two meters people. One for the customer which you re-set after each purchase and the running meter, which is for the company to keep tabs on its sales thats a major deal to re-set / tamper with and for good reason.
They are...... very possibly doing something..... but they are not TTBOMK pumping air..
as for""They do not squeeze the handle completely. The gauge keeps running, the fuel not.""
What do you think is driving the dial the meter ? The flow of liquid drives the meter the meter is passive..
BTW often there are two pumps to make this all work they work because of disparity of ambient pressure. It can be but is seldom a submersible primary pump.
Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:58 PM
Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:59 PM
Anyone noticed this problem at the other two stations?
Sounds like one has to wrest the pump away from attendant and do a self fill. A woman could prolly get away with that but a guy, I'm thinking that approach could get real ugly real fast.
Posted 27 May 2010 - 08:06 PM
Posted 27 May 2010 - 09:06 PM
You have a better explanation? I ain't heard one as yet
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